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Last replied
13 Apr 2024
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From 2017 to 2021 I was the owner and manager of the first vegan restaurant in Thessaloniki . I have recently closed the restaurant - due to Corona, but not only - and I am currently working on new projects related to vegan cooking, sustainability and second hand fashion. Since, March 2021, I also have a day time job in an international organisation where I telework from home three days a week.
I am looking for animal lovers who want to take care of my pet gang (2 dogs, 2 cats), share other responsibilities around the house and support me with my new projects.
The pets are adorable, the flat is big and beautiful, with the sea close by.
Thessaloniki is an interesting and vibrant city with history, culture and fun.
Types of help and learning opportunities
Art Projects
Gardening
Animal Care
Creating/ Cooking family meals
Help around the house
General Maintenance
Help with Computers/ Internet
Cultural exchange and learning opportunities
Thessaloniki is a very active and young city with a huge cultural and historical heritage. I am happy to introduce you to the beauty of Thessaloniki, also you will have enough free time to discover the city and surroundings by yourself.
Help
I have been living and working in Thessaloniki, Greece for over 10 years now. I still remember my first encounter with stray animals here in Greece, a phenomena which in Germany - my country of origin - we are not familiar with.
I am now sharing my home with 2 dogs and 2 cats - all former strays, and I want to provide them with the best life possible.
From 2017 to 2021 I was the owner and manager of the first vegan restaurant in Thessaloniki. I have recently closed the restaurant - due to Corona, but not only - and I am currently working on new projects related to vegan cooking, sustainability and second hand fashion.
Since March 2021, I am also having a day time job (full time) with an international governmental organisation. This means, I am working from home three days a week and two days from the office.
Your responsibilities include:
- sharing the house with me, two dogs and two cats
- walking the dogs at least once a day
- feeding all pets following a precise plan and schedule
- playing with the pets and generally making them feel loved and entertained
- watering plants
- keeping the house and balcony clean
- helping me in the kitchen with preparing vegan food
- assisting me with setting up my new projects
- social media, photo editing
I prefer a female person, animal lover, age of no importance, also dates are flexible, minimum stay is 2 weeks (negotiable).
Vegan/vegetarian diet not required, but appreciated.
Languages spoken
German: Fluent
Greek: Fluent
English: Fluent
Accommodation
I am happy to open my house to the right person. I can offer a room in a beautiful flat, four heart warming pets and vegan cuisine.
What else ...
My home is located in Thessaloniki, the second biggest city of Greece. It is located 4 km from the city centre, close to the seafront and in a beautiful neighborhood.
The apartment is on the 7th floor and has a huge balcony with view to the sea. Elevator available.
A little more information
Internet access
Limited internet access
We have pets
We are smokers
Can host families
How many Workawayers can stay?
One
Hours expected
Maximum 4-5 hours a day, 6 days a week
Host ref number: 272781931512
Feedback (29)
10 Mar 2024
Left by Workawayer (Emily) for host
This was my first workaway experience so a bit nervous at first, but Bettina was so lovely and welcoming. Very fair working hours and the work was quite easy, the pet gang are also absolutely adorable! I'm very much going to miss being there and would love to stay again if I'm ever back in Thessaloniki :)
4 May 2023
Left by host for Workawayer (Aja Mel)
With Aja we won the workaway jackpot!!! She is an absolute treasure and a highly and widely skilled young person. She is intelligent and creative, has an outgoing, pleasant and caring personality, she is a fast learner with a positive attitude, is reliable, curious, independent and hardworking….and not to forget, so much FUN.
Aja stayed with us… read more
Aja stayed with us… read more
(Excellent
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29 Apr 2023
Left by Workawayer (Aja Mel) for host
I stayed with Bettina and the gang for three weeks, but I would’ve stayed three years. I had such an amazing time, truly would not change a thing. I met a lot of cool people my age in Thessaloniki, and it’s easy to get downtown very fast from where the flat is. Bettina is one of the coolest people I’ve ever met and really pushed me to take full… read more
13 Jul 2022
Left by Workawayer (Nina) for host
I originally planned to only stay with Bettina for a few weeks, but I ended up staying for almost two months because it was simply the best workaway experience one could think of. Bettina is the most caring and sweetest host, she makes sure that you feel happy and safe during your stay. You will have your own private room that you can share with… read more
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10 Mar 2024
Left by Workawayer (Emily) for host
This was my first workaway experience so a bit nervous at first, but Bettina was so lovely and welcoming. Very fair working hours and the work was quite easy, the pet gang are also absolutely adorable! I'm very much going to miss being there and would love to stay again if I'm ever back in Thessaloniki :)
4 May 2023
Left by host for Workawayer (Aja Mel)
With Aja we won the workaway jackpot!!! She is an absolute treasure and a highly and widely skilled young person. She is intelligent and creative, has an outgoing, pleasant and caring personality, she is a fast learner with a positive attitude, is reliable, curious, independent and hardworking….and not to forget, so much FUN.
Aja stayed with us… read more
Aja stayed with us… read more
(Excellent
)
29 Apr 2023
Left by Workawayer (Aja Mel) for host
I stayed with Bettina and the gang for three weeks, but I would’ve stayed three years. I had such an amazing time, truly would not change a thing. I met a lot of cool people my age in Thessaloniki, and it’s easy to get downtown very fast from where the flat is. Bettina is one of the coolest people I’ve ever met and really pushed me to take full… read more
13 Jul 2022
Left by Workawayer (Nina) for host
I originally planned to only stay with Bettina for a few weeks, but I ended up staying for almost two months because it was simply the best workaway experience one could think of. Bettina is the most caring and sweetest host, she makes sure that you feel happy and safe during your stay. You will have your own private room that you can share with… read more
6 Jan 2022
Left by host for Workawayer (Suna)
We receive a lot of requests from workwayers and sometimes it is so hard to choose. However, choosing Suna was as good as it gets. She is a lovely girl and was fitting in our small family like a lost puzzle piece.
Suna loves animals and that is so important to us. She created special bonds with all pets and made them feel at ease, understood… read more
Suna loves animals and that is so important to us. She created special bonds with all pets and made them feel at ease, understood… read more
(Excellent
)
27 Dec 2021
Left by Workawayer (Suna) for host
I spent two amazing weeks with Bettina and her pet gang at the end of November and it was a really unique experience that I will never forget. It also happened to be my first workaway ever and it honestly couldn't have gone any better. Betttina is such an inspiring and impressive woman from whom everyone can learn something. She immediately made… read more
19 Oct 2021
Left by host for Workawayer (Florentine)
Florentine stayed with us in the middle of August, survived a never ending heatwave, never complained and left behind some great memories 3 weeks later.
Florentine is an animal loving, warm-hearted, clever, courageous, creative and independent young woman. She worked easily at all tasks given and always with a lovely attitude. I’m seeing the… read more
Florentine is an animal loving, warm-hearted, clever, courageous, creative and independent young woman. She worked easily at all tasks given and always with a lovely attitude. I’m seeing the… read more
(Excellent
)
2 Oct 2021
Left by Workawayer (Florentine) for host
I stayed with Bettina and her lovely pet gang for two weeks in august and I enjoyed every second of it! It was my first workaway experience and the best I could ever wish for. Bettina is such a warmhearted and kind person and I immediately felt safe and at home. She is such an inspiring woman and I'm so lucky I got to live in her energy. We had… read more
6 Aug 2021
Left by host for Workawayer (Natacha)
Natacha stayed with us in July 2021. The moment she arrived, she filled our house with laughter, energy, youthfulness and positive vibes. We all fell in love with her instantly. Of course, she did all her expected chores perfectly. She kept the petgang happy and entertained, it seemed that the plants on the balcony were even growing faster than… read more
(Excellent
)
2 Aug 2021
Left by Workawayer (Natacha) for host
These 3 weeks in Thessaloniki were my first workaway and I could’ve never imagine having a better experience than with Bettina and her cute family! Bettina is such a wonderful and inspiring person. She will make you feel at home instantly. She’s an open minded, creative, funny and really smart person! You’ll never be bored with her and will have… read more
3 Aug 2021
Left by Workawayer (Anna) for host
Bettina's place is heaven for those who at least a little bit love animals! My ten day stay with the gang was much more an animal therapy than work. Bettina is one of the coolest persons I've ever met! She is really kind, supportive, fun and inspiring! Very open-minded and understanding, so I felt safe with her very quick. The furry kids are very… read more
25 Jul 2021
Left by host for Workawayer (Anna)
Anna joined the pack for two weeks in July 2021. It was a great pleasure to host her. She is an intelligent, friendly, independent and helpful young woman. The pets dearly loved her and enjoyed her company, and so did I. She is also a fantastic cook and introduced us to some delicious Hungarian dishes. So YUMMY!!! She also looked after the plants,… read more
(Excellent
)
22 Jul 2021
Left by host for Workawayer (Victoria)
Lovely Victoria stayed with us 3 weeks in June 2021 and we deeply enjoyed her company. Her main task was to take care of two dogs and two cats, which she did with pleasure, compassion, respect and LOVE. The pets adored her and loved her company all day round.
Victoria also had to water the plants, keep the house in order, cook and bake, and… read more
Victoria also had to water the plants, keep the house in order, cook and bake, and… read more
(Excellent
)
6 Jul 2021
Left by Workawayer (Victoria) for host
I stayed with Bettina and her pet gang for 3 weeks in June, 2021.
Bettina is a kind and generous host and Cosette, Hendricks, Nietzsche and Domino are lovely to be around.
My work was related to walking Cosette and Hendricks, giving everybody food and spending time with them. They have very different characters, some energetic, some reserved but… read more
Bettina is a kind and generous host and Cosette, Hendricks, Nietzsche and Domino are lovely to be around.
My work was related to walking Cosette and Hendricks, giving everybody food and spending time with them. They have very different characters, some energetic, some reserved but… read more
17 Feb 2021
Left by host for Workawayer (Linda)
A cheerful and charming young woman entered our lives in August 2020. She took our hearts by storm. Luckily we were able to convince her to stay much longer than she originally anticipated.
The pets fell for her immediately and so did I. What’s not to love: sunshine LINDA brightened up each and every day with her joyful character. Of course and… read more
The pets fell for her immediately and so did I. What’s not to love: sunshine LINDA brightened up each and every day with her joyful character. Of course and… read more
(Excellent
)
11 Feb 2021
Left by Workawayer (Linda) for host
My very late feedback for the most wonderful weeks of my summer 2020:
I stayed with Bettina and the furry gang for almost six weeks, even if after 4 weeks my time was originally up and the new workawayer (which I now count to my dear friends) already arrived. Living in this full household was so much fun! There is always something to do, to see,… read more
I stayed with Bettina and the furry gang for almost six weeks, even if after 4 weeks my time was originally up and the new workawayer (which I now count to my dear friends) already arrived. Living in this full household was so much fun! There is always something to do, to see,… read more
26 Jan 2021
Left by Workawayer (Clarisse) for host
I spent four weeks at Bettina's in October and as a first workaway it could not have been better. My time there was truly amazing!
Cosette, Hendricks, Nietzsche and Domino are adorable and it was a pleasure to take care of them, spend time with them and get to know their different personalities. The dogs love their everyday walks, cuddles and to… read more
Cosette, Hendricks, Nietzsche and Domino are adorable and it was a pleasure to take care of them, spend time with them and get to know their different personalities. The dogs love their everyday walks, cuddles and to… read more
12 Jan 2021
Left by host for Workawayer (Estelle)
I was honoured that Estelle decided to spend her first workaway experience with my Greek petgang and me. I even admired her more when I found out that Estelle used her annual leave from her full time job to spend time with us. WOW!!!!
I couldn't think of a better volunteer to spend the difficult days of lockdown together. Estelle is calm,… read more
I couldn't think of a better volunteer to spend the difficult days of lockdown together. Estelle is calm,… read more
(Excellent
)
3 Dec 2020
Left by Workawayer (Estelle) for host
For my first workaway, I spent 3 incredible weeks with Bettina, a good part was in confinement because of the coronavirus. With the confinement, Bettina needed less help in the restaurant so I spent more time cleaning the apartment and with the animals but still cooked a few dishes for the restaurant with all my heart.
His apartment is very… read more
His apartment is very… read more
24 Aug 2020
Left by host for Workawayer (Sofia)
Sophia is a very capable, outgoing and fun young woman with an amazing positive aura surrounding her. It was a great pleasure for us to host her. She is very social and always cheerful, getting along great with our "petgang" who absolutely adored her. She is also very good gardener AND seriously the house was never cleaner than with Sophia.
We… read more
We… read more
(Excellent
)
17 Aug 2020
Left by Workawayer (Sofia) for host
My stay in Bettina's house was great! I fell in love with the pet gang at first sight, and I miss all of them! Nietzsche, Domino, Hendricks and Cosette! The area of Thessaloniki where Bettina lives is super nice and I had long walks with the dogs, mainly in the way alongside the sea. The sunsets are amazing from there! This place was exactly what… read more
10 Aug 2020
Left by host for Workawayer (Emily)
We are so glad that Emily stayed with us during July 2020. She is friendly, witty, charming, intelligent, trustworthy, easy going and just a lot of fun.
She bonded immediately with the pets, provided the love and guidance they needed and was "operational" from day one. All tasks were executed perfectly without much guidance.
The pets loved her a… read more
She bonded immediately with the pets, provided the love and guidance they needed and was "operational" from day one. All tasks were executed perfectly without much guidance.
The pets loved her a… read more
(Excellent
)
2 Aug 2020
Left by Workawayer (Emily) for host
I stayed with Bettina and the wonderful pack for only a week, and it was such a lovely welcome to Greece and first Workaway experience. In my opinion, the work is easy if you like animals, mainly walking, feeding and light cleaning of the cat trays and the apartment. You'll have a lot of time to yourself but the animals will keep you entertained… read more
7 Feb 2020
Left by host for Workawayer (Gamze)
Gamze was just wonderful in all aspects. An intelligent, hard working, friendly, lovely, honest, daring and funny woman. We all had such a great time with her. She was a fantastic pet sitter, and all my pets were in zen mood due to her. Of course, she also knows how to keep a house and balcony clean and tidy, without instruction. But more than… read more
(Excellent
)
22 Dec 2019
Left by Workawayer (Gamze) for host
I'm sorry for my delayed feedback.
It's not easy to write feedback for me because I'm going back to those special days and so I feel very emotional.
In Thessaloniki, one of my favorite cities, it was great to be with dear Bettina and her lovely pet gang. By the way, Bettina's apartment is very comfortable, beautiful and very close to the… read more
It's not easy to write feedback for me because I'm going back to those special days and so I feel very emotional.
In Thessaloniki, one of my favorite cities, it was great to be with dear Bettina and her lovely pet gang. By the way, Bettina's apartment is very comfortable, beautiful and very close to the… read more
31 Oct 2019
Left by host for Workawayer (Heidi Desiré)
We were happy to provide Heidi with her first workaway experience.
All of us had a fantastic time with Heidi from the beginning. She bonded immediately with all the pets, took the dogs for lovely walks, played and cuddled and took good care of them. She kept the apartment clean and cosy and I was always happy to come home after a long days work… read more
All of us had a fantastic time with Heidi from the beginning. She bonded immediately with all the pets, took the dogs for lovely walks, played and cuddled and took good care of them. She kept the apartment clean and cosy and I was always happy to come home after a long days work… read more
(Excellent
)
2 Oct 2019
Left by Workawayer (Heidi Desiré) for host
I felt welcome from the first moment I met Bettina and the dogs at the bus stop!
Bettina is understanding, caring, and just a wonderful person. I highly recommend staying with her and her amazing pet gang. During my stay I really got to know the animals and they each have the most unique and beautiful personalities. There was a lot of interesting… read more
Bettina is understanding, caring, and just a wonderful person. I highly recommend staying with her and her amazing pet gang. During my stay I really got to know the animals and they each have the most unique and beautiful personalities. There was a lot of interesting… read more
31 Oct 2019
Left by host for Workawayer (Martyna & Marta)
I felt happy from the first moment I met up with Martyna and Martha!
Martyna and Martha are understanding, respectful, caring, hard working and just wonderful people. I highly recommend them to anybody who needs work to be done. They are a dream team. and although I normally prefer one person to stay with us, I make exceptions for the right… read more
Martyna and Martha are understanding, respectful, caring, hard working and just wonderful people. I highly recommend them to anybody who needs work to be done. They are a dream team. and although I normally prefer one person to stay with us, I make exceptions for the right… read more
(Excellent
)
28 Oct 2019
Left by Workawayer (Martyna & Marta) for host
We had an amazing time in Thessaloniki with Bettina and all the animals!
Although we had to leave earlier than planned Bettina was very understanding about the situation. She’s a kind, welcoming and inspiring person. She’s a great chef and we were lucky enough to try her dishes every day. Marta (who’s a chef herself) had an amazing opportunity to… read more
Although we had to leave earlier than planned Bettina was very understanding about the situation. She’s a kind, welcoming and inspiring person. She’s a great chef and we were lucky enough to try her dishes every day. Marta (who’s a chef herself) had an amazing opportunity to… read more
29 Jul 2019
Left by Workawayer (Lara) for host
I feel very lucky that Bettina and the pet gang welcomed me into their home. I am missing them already! The animals have so much love to give in return for your care and respect. Bettina is a very welcoming host and makes you feel very at home. The location of the flat is great for exploring Thessaloniki and has an amazing balcony which you can… read more
31 May 2019
Left by host for Workawayer (Jade)
We all loved Jade from the beginning and grew even more fond of her as time went by. She is such a beautiful, fun and humble person to have around. Easy going on one side and totally reliable and trustworthy on the other.
My two cats and two dogs never left her side. She really took wonderful care of my pets, my house and my plants. My dogs even… read more
My two cats and two dogs never left her side. She really took wonderful care of my pets, my house and my plants. My dogs even… read more
(Excellent
)
4 May 2019
Left by Workawayer (Jade) for host
Amazing experience! I had such a wonderful time helping Bettina with all her furry friends! I spent about 2 and a half weeks with Bettina and enjoyed every moment, I'm not a city girl but Thessaloniki is beautiful with a very chilled vibe. Bettina is such a kind and generous person who doesn't take life too seriously! She was so welcoming and made… read more
17 Apr 2019
Left by host for Workawayer (Sophia)
Sophie was a wonderful young woman to have around. My crazy pet gang fell in love with her immediately and so did I. Young, creative, politically interested, clever, easy going, a big animal lover - and not to forget - she also knows how to iron perfectly and keep the house clean without detailed instructions. She is willing to help, learn and… read more
(Excellent
)
7 Apr 2019
Left by Workawayer (Sophia) for host
I was the luckiest girl ever that Bettina took me in!
Actually I chose Thessaloniki for no real reason and at the beginning I was a bit skeptical about whether it would not get boring after a while. But I had seen Bettina's profile on Workaway and thought that the project would be perfect for my start of my journey. I could not have been more… read more
Actually I chose Thessaloniki for no real reason and at the beginning I was a bit skeptical about whether it would not get boring after a while. But I had seen Bettina's profile on Workaway and thought that the project would be perfect for my start of my journey. I could not have been more… read more
13 Mar 2019
Left by host for Workawayer (Michail)
I met Michael through workaway. Although I couldn't provide him with accomodation, he was happy to assist me in the restaurant. Michael is a fantastic person, sincere, honest, hard working and willing to help wherever he can. I admire him for his determination.
He loves Greece and is ready to continue his stay, professionalise his Greek, dig into… read more
He loves Greece and is ready to continue his stay, professionalise his Greek, dig into… read more
(Excellent
)
13 Mar 2019
Left by Workawayer (Michail) for host
I collaborated with Bettina about a week, in August 2008: she had other volunteers and so we did a collaboration test in her restaurant which is very nice, quite central and close to the sea. It is also a great restaurant and all the staff working there are very courteous and hospitable.
Bettina is very busy but has always found time to smile, to… read more
Bettina is very busy but has always found time to smile, to… read more
22 Dec 2018
Left by host for Workawayer (Ana)
I was so happy that Ana responded to our last minute workaway request. Two days later she came all the way from India to join our small family here in Greece. We loved her from the first moment. She made the animals happy and comfortable, kept the house clean and was just a good companion to share time with. Highly recommended.
(Excellent
)
22 Dec 2018
Left by Workawayer (Ana) for host
I leave Bettina and all the babies there with a bit of a broken heart. I had such an amazing time with Bettina and the dogs and cats are just adorable bundles of love and joy. They are good for the soul. Thank you Bettina for making me feel welcome and at home.
10 Dec 2018
Left by Workawayer (Karina & Natalia) for host
We couldn't have wished for a better beginning of our several-month trip! From the first days, we felt like... at home. :-)
Bettina is just a wonderful person: intelligent, strong, funny, creative and full of warmth and love for her AMAZING animals. Do we have to mention that we fell in love with them at first sight?! We were so lucky to feel… read more
Bettina is just a wonderful person: intelligent, strong, funny, creative and full of warmth and love for her AMAZING animals. Do we have to mention that we fell in love with them at first sight?! We were so lucky to feel… read more
9 Dec 2018
Left by host for Workawayer (Karina & Natalia)
These two charming girls have spent the last 6 weeks with me in Thessaloniki, Greece in order to look after my mischievous pet gang aka Nietzsche, Hendrix, Cosette and Domino. From the first minute we all fell in love with Karina and Natalia, even cat Domino opened up on the first day to the girls, although normally it takes him a week to approach… read more
(Excellent
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25 Aug 2018
Left by Workawayer (Marianela) for host
Volunteering in the house of Bettina was an excellent experience, first because she is a great woman, very friendly. She always tryed to help me and respect my independence and privacy. I arouse in me a greater interest in vegan food since the one they serve in their restaurant is exquisite food of excellent quality. I fell in love with her four… read more
21 Aug 2018
Left by Workawayer (Mara) for host
I stayed at Bettina's 3 weeks, she is a lovely inspiring and very strong woman always willing to help and know if everything is allright!
The work is not complicated or hard, if you love animals this is the right place for you.
Her animals are lovely and have really grown into my heart :')
The food in the restaurant is "nustimo" (delecious!… read more
The work is not complicated or hard, if you love animals this is the right place for you.
Her animals are lovely and have really grown into my heart :')
The food in the restaurant is "nustimo" (delecious!… read more
6 Aug 2018
Left by host for Workawayer (Nina Ruth)
We were lucky to have Nina staying with us during July 2018. She was wonderful person to have around. She was easy going, intelligent, motivated, helpful, responsible and a very quick learner. She took the hearts of my pet gang by storm. Also in our little vegan restaurant she was a huge help from the first minute she entered.
We are looking… read more
We are looking… read more
(Excellent
)
6 Aug 2018
Left by Workawayer (Nina Ruth) for host
Bettina was a wonderful person to be around and live with during my stay in Thessaloniki. I felt incredibly comfortable in her home and taking care of her cute animals. I was so sad to have to leave and will be returning soon for a visit to see her and her beautiful city! I could not have had a better stay. Thank you Bettina!
3 Jun 2018
Left by Workawayer (Katharina) for host
This was my first workaway and I am still so sad that I had to leave. Bettina is an incredibly nice, generous and funny person. She helped me so much with organizing my trips, overcoming my homesickness and with coming out of my comfort zone. If she wasn‘t there I wouldn‘t have met so many nice people! One night I wasn‘t feeling very good and she… read more
2 Mar 2018
Left by Workawayer (Hacer) for host
I just a member of work a way.
I wrote somewhere.
Only 2 host wrote me back.
Bettina is really kind person.
Our date is different. Because, she has volunteer in this term.
Bettina, Thanks a lot for mail.
I wrote somewhere.
Only 2 host wrote me back.
Bettina is really kind person.
Our date is different. Because, she has volunteer in this term.
Bettina, Thanks a lot for mail.
2 Mar 2018
Left by Workawayer (Rachida) for host
i spend 4 months and a half with Bettina and the wonderful pack, leaving is heartbrealking i`m so in love with the kids and i met a lot very kind people.
Bettina is a very busy person who run a restaurant so she need someone self starter who can work on your own initiative. i learned a lot with her about vegan good , she alway impressed me by her… read more
Bettina is a very busy person who run a restaurant so she need someone self starter who can work on your own initiative. i learned a lot with her about vegan good , she alway impressed me by her… read more
27 Dec 2017
Left by Workawayer (Jade) for host
My time with Bettina was short, but it was a lovely experience. I got off the bus and she met me with her dogs! I am a huge animal lover, so that was very cute! She made sure I was well taken care of. Her place is close to a park area, and a perfect area to bring her dogs out for a stroll. Her pets are insanely cute! I was given a private room and… read more
